Comments on: When the woo grows up http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/ I am flawed if I'm not free Sat, 19 May 2012 12:05:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Court http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-558 Court Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:06:32 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-558 Phew, I figured it wasn't quite like you to think that! Seriously, we need to write these Mary Kay execs and get them to re-write their material. That's appalling!! Phew, I figured it wasn’t quite like you to think that!

Seriously, we need to write these Mary Kay execs and get them to re-write their material. That’s appalling!!

]]> By: Hezabelle http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-557 Hezabelle Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:11:37 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-557 Oh, I definitely agree with the starting a business thing, Mary Kay or otherwise. People do really well as consultants. It was only the tone of the pamphlet that annoyed me, which was pretty much as I had imitated. It was all so... patriarchal. Not so much about what they were saying as HOW they were saying it. Oh, I definitely agree with the starting a business thing, Mary Kay or otherwise. People do really well as consultants. It was only the tone of the pamphlet that annoyed me, which was pretty much as I had imitated. It was all so… patriarchal. Not so much about what they were saying as HOW they were saying it.

]]> By: Court http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-553 Court Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:04:21 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-553 Woo! is my very favourite episode of HIMYM!! We saw some real live woo girls in the DR this winter, they even did karaoke to Sweet Home Alabama, wooing when they forgot the words! Props on the amazing smack down of heteronormativity! What I wouldn't give to see the faces of whoever collected those surveys! For me, being a feminist is all about believing that women can do everything, that women should have the option to do anything without being held back. It sucks that men and women don't yet have equal job opportunities in all situations, but that's a reality. As a feminist, I'll fight tooth and nail to defend a woman's right to work full time and leave her kids in childcare (or not have kids at all). I don't see why this shouldn't extend to women who choose to stay home with their kids. Sadly, there isn't always a lot of support for stay-at-home moms in most companies-- but working for someone like Mary Kay gives women a way to make money, boost their confidence, and support their families in the way that they've chosen for themselves. How is that not empowering? As far as I'm concerned, a Mary Kay consultant isn't all that different from any other business owner. They just get better benefits, more flexible hours, and a sense of community with other successful women (although their product is probably tackier!). And I'm sure most of their husbands are supportive of that. Stereotyping men can have the same effect as stereotyping women. We're lucky enough to live in a time and place where there's more than one acceptable way for a woman to live her life. Woo! is my very favourite episode of HIMYM!! We saw some real live woo girls in the DR this winter, they even did karaoke to Sweet Home Alabama, wooing when they forgot the words!

Props on the amazing smack down of heteronormativity! What I wouldn’t give to see the faces of whoever collected those surveys!

For me, being a feminist is all about believing that women can do everything, that women should have the option to do anything without being held back. It sucks that men and women don’t yet have equal job opportunities in all situations, but that’s a reality.

As a feminist, I’ll fight tooth and nail to defend a woman’s right to work full time and leave her kids in childcare (or not have kids at all). I don’t see why this shouldn’t extend to women who choose to stay home with their kids. Sadly, there isn’t always a lot of support for stay-at-home moms in most companies– but working for someone like Mary Kay gives women a way to make money, boost their confidence, and support their families in the way that they’ve chosen for themselves. How is that not empowering?

As far as I’m concerned, a Mary Kay consultant isn’t all that different from any other business owner. They just get better benefits, more flexible hours, and a sense of community with other successful women (although their product is probably tackier!). And I’m sure most of their husbands are supportive of that. Stereotyping men can have the same effect as stereotyping women.

We’re lucky enough to live in a time and place where there’s more than one acceptable way for a woman to live her life.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-551 Sebastian Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:33:42 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-551 *scrawls 'MILITANT FEMINIST' across the top of of the page and turns over* *scrawls ‘MILITANT FEMINIST’ across the top of of the page and turns over*

]]> By: Lea http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-546 Lea Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:58:54 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-546 Woo! Woo!

]]> By: The Chris http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-545 The Chris Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:50:54 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-545 I heard this story on the phone and it is even funnier the second time around! WOO! I heard this story on the phone and it is even funnier the second time around! WOO!

]]> By: Eleni http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-544 Eleni Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:03:14 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-544 Yes! HIMYM is the best sitcom on TV. I actually haven't seen seasons 2 or 3, which is sad (I'll have to catch up on them eventually). All the characters are great, and I'm kind of in love with Ted (I'm thinking maybe I should go to New York and enroll in an architecture course...) Anyway, yeah, cosmetics are definitely not worth a woo. I've thought about trying some light makeup, but for now there's really no one I'm trying to impress and I'm just too darn lazy for it anyway. I love how you filled out their survey. You tell 'em! Yes! HIMYM is the best sitcom on TV. I actually haven’t seen seasons 2 or 3, which is sad (I’ll have to catch up on them eventually). All the characters are great, and I’m kind of in love with Ted (I’m thinking maybe I should go to New York and enroll in an architecture course…)

Anyway, yeah, cosmetics are definitely not worth a woo. I’ve thought about trying some light makeup, but for now there’s really no one I’m trying to impress and I’m just too darn lazy for it anyway. I love how you filled out their survey. You tell ‘em!

]]> By: Laura http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-543 Laura Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:32:02 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-543 fabulous! the inner feminist breaks free! you are now a superior woman- because you believe that YOU as a WOMAN matter. I love that. Mary Kay is such shit. I went to a make over for a wedding, and the woman asked me three hundred times why I didn't wear make up and insisted that I should. I finally shouted at her: "I DON'T NEED TO WEAR MAKE UP! I AM NATURALLY BEAUTIFUL!" and really, who can argue with that? ;) ps I am so sorry you had to go through that- but I am so happy with the end result! An angry, feminist rant on the blog. I am so proud. fabulous! the inner feminist breaks free! you are now a superior woman- because you believe that YOU as a WOMAN matter. I love that. Mary Kay is such shit. I went to a make over for a wedding, and the woman asked me three hundred times why I didn’t wear make up and insisted that I should. I finally shouted at her: “I DON’T NEED TO WEAR MAKE UP! I AM NATURALLY BEAUTIFUL!” and really, who can argue with that? ;)

ps I am so sorry you had to go through that- but I am so happy with the end result! An angry, feminist rant on the blog. I am so proud.

]]> By: Jes http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-542 Jes Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:41:31 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-542 Jessica Valenti would be proud, my friend. And kudos for calling them out on their 'traditional marriage' bullshit!! Jessica Valenti would be proud, my friend. And kudos for calling them out on their ‘traditional marriage’ bullshit!!

]]> By: Faebala http://www.hezabelle.ca/2009/06/23/when-the-woo-grows-up/comment-page-1/#comment-541 Faebala Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:14:50 +0000 http://www.hezabelle.ca/?p=544#comment-541 Brandi did Mary Kay for awhile. I loved their products, because I got them from her, but she wasn't into the party throwing so she sold to people she knew and then decided to give it up, and kept all the free products they gave her, hahah. Their face wash is incredible, just for the record. I used to use it, but then I was too poor to buy it anymore and didn't want to buy it from someone not Brandi. But it was amazing stuff. And I see you're not denying your feminist self anymore, haha. Brandi did Mary Kay for awhile. I loved their products, because I got them from her, but she wasn’t into the party throwing so she sold to people she knew and then decided to give it up, and kept all the free products they gave her, hahah.

Their face wash is incredible, just for the record. I used to use it, but then I was too poor to buy it anymore and didn’t want to buy it from someone not Brandi. But it was amazing stuff.

And I see you’re not denying your feminist self anymore, haha.

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